How to Stop Hoping your Adult Child will Change….

And start protecting yourself. By Steve Phillips-Waller

Living with the heartbreak of a troubled relationship with your adult child requires a kind of courage most people never have to find. You wake up each day carrying the weight of worry, the ache of disappointment, and the exhausting burden of trying to fix something that remains broken despite your best efforts.

Perhaps you’ve spent years—maybe decades—pouring yourself into this relationship, believing that your next attempt, your next conversation, your next gesture of help would finally be the one that turns everything around.

You likely carry guilt and blame, too. Perhaps you mentally catalogue every parenting decision and wonder which ones led here. Yet theories from psychologists like Judith Rich Harris and Howard Gardner point to something both challenging and freeing: peer groups, individual temperament, and experiences beyond your home shaped your child in ways you might not realize.

Mental health issues, addiction, toxic partners, and traumatic experiences you couldn’t have prevented all play roles in who your child has become. There’s no question that you greatly influenced them, but you didn’t determine everything.

The truth many parents eventually face is that protecting yourself doesn’t mean you’ve failed or stopped caring. Sometimes, the most profound act of love involves stepping back, setting firm boundaries, and choosing your own wellbeing even when it feels impossible. Here’s how.

1. Recognize when you’re stuck in the “hope trap”.

Your mind keeps returning to the same script. Maybe next month will be different. Maybe once they get through this rough patch. Maybe after they turn thirty, or forty, or after they hit rock bottom. You find yourself making excuses that sound reasonable in the moment—they’re under stress, they didn’t mean it that way, they’re trying their best.

Perpetual hoping feels productive because it keeps you engaged. Your brain searches desperately for patterns that suggest improvement, latching onto small moments of kindness or brief periods of stability as evidence that real change is coming. Meanwhile, you’re waiting for apologies that never arrive, or arrive without the behavioral shifts that should follow them.

What makes this trap so powerful is the gap between who you remember raising and who stands before you now. That cognitive dissonance—the clash between the child you knew and the adult they’ve become—keeps you stuck in the past, constantly seeing potential instead of accepting reality.

Hope becomes toxic when it stops you from taking the necessary action to protect yourself. You deserve to acknowledge that hoping without evidence of change, year after year, creates its own kind of suffering. Parents often stay trapped here because admitting your child might not change feels like giving up on them, when really you’re just beginning to face what is rather than what you wish could be.

2. Understand that your love alone can’t fix them.

Many parents carry a deeply rooted belief that love conquers all. You’ve loved this person from before they took their first breath, through every scraped knee and bad dream and teenage crisis. Surely that same love can pull them through whatever they’re facing now.

But adult children struggling with addiction, personality disorders, mental illness, or deeply ingrained behavioral patterns need professional intervention that you simply cannot provide, no matter how much you love them. Your role as a parent has inherent limitations once someone reaches adulthood. You can offer support, but you cannot force someone into their own healing journey.

Here’s where many parents stumble into codependency without realizing it. When helping becomes rescuing—when you’re working harder on their life than they are—you’re actually removing the natural discomfort that might motivate them to seek real help. Taking responsibility for their healing disempowers them, sending the unintended message that they’re not capable of managing their own life.

Supporting someone means standing beside them as they do their own work. Rescuing means doing the work for them. One builds strength; the other prevents it. Learning this distinction doesn’t mean you love them less. Sometimes, loving wisely means stepping back so that they have the space to find their own way forward, even if that path includes struggles you desperately wish you could spare them.

3. Accept that setting boundaries isn’t abandonment.

Guilt rises in your throat every time you consider saying no. The voice in your head sounds relentless: “I’m their parent, I should always be there.” Friends and family might reinforce this, questioning how you could possibly set limits with your own child. Cultural or religious teachings may have emphasized that parents never give up, never stop giving, never close the door.

Yet boundaries and abandonment are fundamentally different. Abandonment means disappearing without explanation or care. Boundaries mean clearly communicating what you will and won’t accept while still caring about the person. Setting a boundary with your adult child actually creates healthy structure in a relationship where chaos has taken over.

Sometimes, boundaries become the only real consequence a person faces, and consequences are powerful teachers. However, you need to set boundaries primarily to protect yourself, not as a strategy to change them. Change might happen, but it cannot be your goal, or you’ll end up disappointed and resentful.

Consider the difference between a boundary and an ultimatum. “I won’t give you money anymore” is a boundary—a decision about your own behavior. “Stop drinking or I’ll never speak to you again” is an ultimatum—an attempt to control their behavior through threats.

Boundaries focus on what you can control: your own actions, your own space, your own resources. They don’t require the other person to change, only that you follow through on what you’ve said you’ll do. Your child is an adult now. Treating them as such, complete with natural consequences for their choices, is more respectful than continuing to shield them from reality indefinitely.

4. Grieve the child you thought you’d have.

Nobody talks about this part enough. You’re mourning someone who is still alive, which feels confusing and somehow wrong. People offer platitudes: “At least they’re still here,” or “Things could be worse.” But the grief is real, and it deserves acknowledgment.

You imagined a different future. Perhaps you pictured holiday dinners where everyone actually wanted to be there, or Sunday phone calls filled with genuine connection rather than crisis management. Maybe you dreamed of being the kind of grandparent who gets regular visits, or having an adult friendship with your child where you truly enjoy each other’s company.

Some parents experience anticipatory grief when the relationship exists but feels effectively over. You’re preparing for permanent loss even though they’re physically present. Others grieve the thousand small losses: the family photos they’re not in, the celebrations they’ve ruined, the trust that’s been shattered beyond repair.

Unprocessed grief often keeps you stuck in hope because grieving feels like finalizing something you’re not ready to finalize. Yet allowing yourself to feel this sadness doesn’t mean you’re giving up. Grief and love coexist. You can mourn what never was and what will never be while still caring about them. You can feel genuine sadness about the relationship you don’t have while also accepting reality. Even if others don’t understand this particular kind of loss, it’s legitimate. Give yourself permission to feel it fully.

5. Identify the specific behaviours you can no longer tolerate.

Vague boundaries like “be respectful” or “treat me better” leave too much room for interpretation. You need concrete, specific lines that both you and your child clearly understand. Grab a piece of paper. Write down the behaviors that have become unacceptable—not occasional mistakes everyone makes, but patterns that repeat despite your best efforts.

Your list might include things like verbal abuse during conversations, showing up at your home uninvited, stealing from you or other family members, creating scenes at family gatherings, using your grandchildren as bargaining chips, asking for money and then spending it on substances, violating your privacy by going through your things, or being intoxicated when they’re in your space. Each person’s list looks different because each situation is unique.

Now rewrite each item as a specific boundary with a clear consequence. “If you raise your voice or call me names, I will end the conversation immediately” is actionable. “Don’t disrespect me” is not. “You may not come to family events if you’re under the influence; if you arrive intoxicated, you’ll be asked to leave” is clear. “Behave at holidays” is not.

Distinguishing between supporting someone through genuinely hard times and accepting unacceptable treatment matters here. Supporting might mean listening to them vent about job frustrations. Accepting unacceptable treatment means letting them scream at you about those frustrations as if you caused them. Supporting might mean helping them research treatment options. Accepting unacceptable treatment means funding their lifestyle while they refuse treatment. You can care deeply about someone’s wellbeing while refusing to tolerate harmful behavior directed at you.

6. Recognize your own enabling patterns.

Enabling means removing natural consequences or making it easier for someone to continue self-destructive patterns. Parents enable from a place of love, which makes it incredibly hard to see clearly. You’re not trying to harm them—you’re trying desperately to help. But certain kinds of help function as obstacles.

Enabling might look like repeatedly covering rent when they spend their money elsewhere, providing housing without any expectations or boundaries, lying to other family members to protect their reputation, accepting blame for choices they made as adults, bailing them out of legal or financial troubles they created, or doing things for them that they’re fully capable of doing themselves. You might make excuses to employers, smooth things over with people they’ve wronged, or sacrifice your own needs to meet their endless demands.

Parents enable for complicated reasons. Guilt whispers that you owe them, that their struggles are somehow your fault. Fear suggests that if you don’t help, something terrible will happen and you’ll be responsible. Habit means you’ve been fixing their problems for so long that it feels normal. Love makes you want to ease their suffering by any means possible. Hope tells you that this time, this help will be the one that finally turns things around.

Ask yourself hard questions. Does my help actually improve their situation in the long run, or does it just delay consequences? Am I doing this to ease my own anxiety rather than truly benefit them? Would I offer this same help to a friend’s adult child in identical circumstances, or am I applying different standards because this is my child? Sometimes, the most loving thing you can do is step back and let natural consequences teach lessons you cannot.

7. Detach with love: the practice of emotional distance.

Caring about someone while refusing to be consumed by their chaos sounds impossible until you learn how. Emotional detachment doesn’t mean you stop loving them or stop hoping they find peace. Rather, you stop letting their crisis become your crisis, their emergency become your emergency, or their choices determine your emotional state.

Practical detachment looks like not answering the phone every single time they call, especially when those calls follow a predictable pattern of drama or demands. Allow silence to exist instead of filling every quiet moment with worry about them. Observe their life without trying to direct, manage, or control it. Respond to situations thoughtfully rather than reacting from panic or guilt.

People sometimes confuse detachment with cold indifference—cutting someone off emotionally and not caring what happens to them. Warm detachment is different. You genuinely wish them well. You care about their wellbeing. You would celebrate if their life improved. But you’re no longer entangled in the daily ups and downs. You’re no longer losing sleep over decisions they’re making. You’re no longer organizing your life around their next crisis.

Anxiety will rise when you first practice detachment because taking action feels safer than accepting powerlessness. Your mind will insist that if you just worry hard enough, think long enough, or intervene quickly enough, you can prevent disaster.

Learning to sit with that anxiety—to feel it without acting on it—takes practice. Breathing exercises help. So does reminding yourself that you cannot control another adult’s life, and attempting to do so exhausts you without helping them. Detachment is a skill that strengthens with repetition, and it might just save your health and sanity.

8. Create and enforce consequences (not punishments).

Consequences and punishments sound similar but function very differently. A consequence is a natural outcome you calmly follow through on to protect yourself or maintain your boundaries. A punishment is a retaliatory action designed to cause pain or teach a lesson through suffering.

“If you come to my home intoxicated, I’ll ask you to leave” is a consequence. You’re protecting your space and maintaining your boundary, stated clearly and enforced without anger. “I won’t talk to you for a month to teach you a lesson about drinking” is a punishment. You’re using your relationship as leverage to control their behavior, and there’s anger or vindictiveness behind it.

Consequences focus on your needs and limits. Punishments focus on forcing them to change. Consequences can be enforced consistently because they’re about protecting yourself, not about your emotional state toward them. Punishments tend to crumble because they require you to maintain anger or disappointment, which is exhausting.

Enforcement is where most boundaries fall apart. You state a boundary clearly, then the moment comes to follow through, and guilt floods in. Maybe they’re crying. Maybe they’re angry. Maybe you’re worried about what will happen if you actually enforce this limit. But backing down teaches them that your boundaries are negotiable, that if they push hard enough or make you feel guilty enough, you’ll fold. Your credibility—both with them and with yourself—depends on following through.

You might say something like: “I need you to leave now. You can call me tomorrow when you’re sober and we can talk then.” Keep your voice calm and your explanation brief. You’re not debating, defending, or discussing in the moment. The discomfort you feel during enforcement is real, but it’s temporary. The erosion of your self-respect from repeatedly failing to enforce your own boundaries lasts much longer.

9. Stop the mental rumination and “what if” thinking.

Your mind probably goes over your situation a LOT. You replay the last conversation, analyzing every word for clues about what you should have said differently. You imagine scenarios—what if you’d been stricter when they were young, what if you’d chosen a different school, what if you’d seen the warning signs earlier. You lie awake at three in the morning constructing elaborate fantasies about reconciliation, picturing the exact words that would finally break through to them.

Rumination feels productive because you’re doing something, even if that something is just thinking in circles. Your brain tricks you into believing that if you just analyze hard enough, replay the past thoroughly enough, or imagine the future vividly enough, you’ll discover the solution that’s been hiding all along. But rumination doesn’t produce solutions. It produces exhaustion.

The psychological trap works because thinking creates a false sense of control. You can’t control their choices or fix their problems, but you can control your thoughts—except you can’t, really, because rumination is compulsive. You’re not choosing these thought patterns; they’re choosing you, particularly during vulnerable moments like early morning or late at night when your defenses are down.

Interrupting rumination requires deliberate techniques. When you notice yourself spiraling, say “stop” out loud if you can, or imagine a stop sign in your mind. Engage your body through movement—go for a walk, do ten jumping jacks, wash dishes with full attention to the sensation of warm water.

Schedule specific “worry time” where you allow yourself fifteen minutes to think about your child, then practice redirecting your thoughts when that time ends. Mindfulness practices help by training your attention to return to the present moment rather than dwelling in the past or future.

Physical activity particularly helps because it’s nearly impossible to ruminate deeply while your body is engaged in something demanding. Your mental energy needs somewhere to go, and if you don’t direct it toward your own life, it will continue flowing toward theirs. Healing requires reclaiming that energy and investing it in things you can actually influence.

10. Know when to cut contact (and when not to).

Complete estrangement isn’t necessary in every difficult relationship, though sometimes, it becomes the only viable option for protecting your wellbeing. Many relationships exist somewhere along a spectrum between full contact and no contact, and finding the right point on that spectrum for your situation matters.

Low contact with strict boundaries might mean you talk once a month on the phone but don’t see each other in person. Modified contact could involve only meeting in public places, or only communicating through text, where you have time to consider your responses. Maintained contact with emotional detachment means you interact but practice the kind of warm detachment we discussed earlier—present but not consumed.

Some of the signs that no contact might be necessary include ongoing abuse that doesn’t stop despite clear boundaries, threats to your safety or the safety of others, dangerous behaviour that puts you at risk, or such severe impact on your physical or mental health that staying in contact is causing you serious harm.

Some parents reach a point where every interaction leaves them shaking, unable to eat, or spiraling into depression for days afterward. Your body often knows before your mind fully accepts that continuing contact is unsustainable.

Is no contact forever? Maybe, maybe not. Committing to permanent estrangement can feel overwhelming, so instead, consider it a decision for right now. You can be firmly no contact today while remaining open to the possibility that circumstances might change years from now. Flexibility doesn’t mean weakness. Changing your mind based on actual evidence of sustained change is a reasonable choice you might make.

Implementing no contact involves blocking phone numbers if necessary, restricting or blocking on social media, asking family members not to share information about you, and possibly using lawyers or mediators for any necessary communication about practical matters.

Grandchildren complicate everything. Some parents maintain minimal contact solely for the sake of relationships with grandchildren, accepting very firm boundaries about what that contact looks like. Others find that the toll of interacting with their adult child makes even that impossible. There’s no right answer that works for everyone.

11. Practice self-compassion through this painful journey.

You’ve been harder on yourself through this process than you’d ever be on someone you love. Every boundary you set comes with a wave of guilt. Every conversation that goes badly gets replayed with harsh internal commentary about what you did wrong. You blame yourself for things that happened twenty years ago, for decisions you made with the information you had at the time, for being human and imperfect.

Self-compassion means speaking to yourself the way you’d speak to a dear friend going through this exact situation. Would you tell your best friend that they’re a terrible person for setting boundaries with an abusive adult child? Would you blame them for their child’s addiction or mental illness? Would you expect them to tolerate treatment you wouldn’t accept from anyone else? The kindness you extend to others needs to flow toward yourself, too.

Acknowledge out loud that this is genuinely difficult. You’re navigating something that most people don’t understand and doing your best with limited options, all while carrying grief and worry and confusion.

Perfect boundary-setting doesn’t exist. You’ll probably slip up, give in when you said you wouldn’t, say yes when you meant to say no. Forgive yourself for past enabling, for all the times you rescued when you should have stepped back, for the mistakes you’ve made along the way and will make in the future.

Parents who’ve spent decades putting everyone else first often find self-compassion particularly challenging. You’ve been trained—by culture, by habit, by your own values—to sacrifice yourself for your children. Relearning that your wellbeing matters, that protecting yourself isn’t selfish, and that you deserve peace even if that peace comes at the cost of distance from your child—this feels wrong and necessary all at once.

Daily practices help. Journal about your feelings without judgment. Write affirmations that counter the harsh thoughts: “I’m doing my best in an impossible situation.” “I deserve safety and peace.” “Protecting myself doesn’t mean I’ve stopped loving them.” Definitely consider getting some therapy with someone experienced in family dynamics—this can provide crucial support and guidance for your very specific situation.

Simple acknowledgment of your pain matters, too. You might tell yourself: “This hurts. This is really, really hard. I’m allowed to feel this.” Self-compassion forms the foundation of sustainable boundary-setting because you cannot maintain boundaries while constantly beating yourself up for having them.

You deserve to live without constant chaos, to sleep through the night, to enjoy moments without guilt. Peace is possible even if the relationship never becomes what you hoped. Your life has value independent of whether your child changes. Hold onto that truth, especially on the hardest days.

You Don’t Need Permission To Protect Yourself

You’ve been seeking permission—from someone, from somewhere—to finally put yourself first. Here’s what needs saying: You are allowed to step back. You are allowed to prioritize your own mental and physical health. You are allowed to build a life that isn’t organized around crisis management and worry.

Choosing yourself doesn’t erase your love or your history or your connection to this person who will always be your child in some fundamental way. But you cannot pour endlessly from an empty cup, and you’ve been running on fumes for far too long. The relationship you have is the relationship you have, not the one you wish existed.

Change might come someday. Then again, it might not. Either way, your life continues. You get to decide how to spend your energy, where to direct your care, what you will and won’t accept. You get to build boundaries that protect you and maintain whatever form of connection feels sustainable, even if that means no connection at all for a while.

Every parent who has walked this path has felt the same guilt, the same fear, the same heartbreak you’re feeling. You’re not alone in this, even when it feels desperately lonely. Somewhere tonight, another parent is making these same painful choices, learning these same difficult lessons.

Your worth isn’t measured by whether you can fix someone else. You’ve done enough. You’ve given enough. Now it’s time to offer yourself the same compassion you’ve extended to them for so long.

Conscious Re-Think

Histrionic Personality Disorder and Lying

by Lori Lawrenz PsyD

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a psychological condition that causes someone to engage in attention-seeking behaviour. Some aspects of this condition may cause a person to lie to manipulate others.

It is possible that those with HPD may lie more than those without this condition, as they may feel the need to manipulate others to attract their attention. There is no research indicating how frequently those with HPD lie compared with those in the general population. However, anecdotal evidence suggests people with HPD may lie or exaggerate the truth.

This article will closely examine HPD and its connection to lying and how to deal with lying and manipulation.

Understanding lying and histrionic personality disorder

There are several traits relating toTrusted Source
 HPD that may cause a person to lie, exaggerate the truth, or manipulate, such as:

Feeling uncomfortable when not the center of attention: Those with HPD feel a need to be the center of attention and, therefore, may use lying or exaggeration as a way to attract attention to themselves.

Shallow or frequently shifting emotions: This means that people with HPD may exhibit emotions that seem insincere to others and change often depending on the situation.

Exaggerating emotions: Someone with HPD may exhibit emotions in an overly dramatic or exaggerated way to attract attention from others.

Manipulative tendencies are common for people with HPD, as they may feel a need to gain attention from those around them or use their emotions to control those around them. They may make up either positive or negative emotions or stories to get this attention.

What is histrionic personality disorder?

Personality disorders are psychological conditions that affect the way a person thinks, feels, and behaves. These conditions cause someone to behave outside of cultural expectations in ways that may cause distress and problems with functioning and maintaining relationships.

HPD is a cluster B personality disorder. Cluster B personality disorders cause a person to have difficulty regulating their emotions and maintaining personal relationships. ResearchersTrusted Source
 are not sure what causes HPD, but it likely has links to factors such as trauma in early childhood and certain parenting styles.

Other histrionic traits include:

  • frequent flirtatious or seductive behaviour
  • using appearance or clothing to attract attention
  • exaggerated or overly dramatic emotions
  • being easily influenced by others
  • thinking relationships with others are closer than they really are
  • engaging in manipulative behaviors
  • engaging in impulsive behavior

Pathological lying

Pathological lying describes somebody who persistently and compulsively tells lies to the point that it damages their personal and professional lives and relationships. Pathological lying can cause distress and harm to both the pathological liar and those around them and persists longer than 6 monthsTrusted Source
. A person can not receive a diagnosis as a pathological liar, but a doctor may recognize pathological lying as part of a personality disorder.

According to research from 2020, pathological lying has a prevalence of around 8–13%Trusted Source
. A person may lie pathologically to bring attention to themselves or to otherwise benefit from the lies they tell.

Dealing with lying and manipulation

Maintaining any kind of relationship with someone who engages in lying and manipulative behavior can be difficult. This behavior can damage relationships and affect a person’s well-being.

It is important to remember that the individual telling lies or engaging in manipulative behavior may not be in control of their actions or may be acting due to their own distress. Avoiding judgment and blame while setting and maintaining strong boundaries may help a person protect themselves and their relationship.

Certain methods may help someone deal with lying and manipulation, such as:

  • not engaging with them or seeming uninterested
  • having strong boundaries and saying “no”
  • understanding they are responsible for their own feelings and behaviors
  • helping them identify their reasons for lying and manipulating
  • helping them find support from a doctor or therapist

Support for those living with others who have personality disorders

Support for friends and family of those with personality disorders can help people maintain their own well-being and their relationship with someone with a personality disorder. Learning more about their condition can help with maintaining a healthy relationship in which all parties feel safe and comfortable.

Therapy may be a helpful tool for those living with others who have personality disorders to express their feelings and experiences and receive support. A person may use other tools, such as support groups and online resources, to find support.

Summary

HPD is a personality disorder that causes someone to exhibit exaggerated emotions and engage in extreme attention-seeking behavior. Part of this behavior may involve lying and manipulation to gain the attention of those around them.

Pathological lying is not a diagnosable condition but may occur when someone has a personality disorder.

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Understanding the Golden Child and Evil Child

by Helena Lofgren

Image – Personality.co

The concepts of the golden child and the evil/scapegoated child can make us think of
narcissistic parents assigning these roles in a family. However, these roles can also be
assigned to adults in a cultic context, and understanding the implications of these roles
can benefit cult recovery. In my clinical work, I meet people who have left a cultic
environment, alone or together. They may be siblings who broke up with a narcissistic
parent, they may be family who left a group as a unit, or they may be friends who
withdrew from a cultic group together. Despite all the goodwill and love a survivor may
receive, healing can be difficult as there are many wounds and triggers in the
relationships between the former members. They might have different experiences in the
same context for many reasons. In the recovery process, it can be helpful to try to
understand the different roles and the dynamics among the cult leader, the golden child
and the evil/scapegoated child.
In this article I look at each one of these roles—the cult leader, the golden child, and the
evil/scapegoated child, and how they can interact. I give an example of these roles from
recent Swedish history and note some of the benefits understanding these roles can have
for helping people recover from their cultic experience.


A Note on My Therapeutic Method

In my own practice, I work with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). There are various
forms of CBT, but they share a basis in research and in theory, for example in
developmental psychology, learning psychology, cognitive psychology, and social
psychology. As research develops, so does CBT. Today it also includes research in, for
example, mindfulness and self-compassion. In CBT the therapist is active: Together with
the client, we formulate goals, treatment plans, and an agenda for each meeting. CBT is
a structured way of working with psychological problems, but there is also flexibility for
the wishes and needs of the client. There are a wide variety of techniques like exposure,
visualization, role-play, and mindfulness practices. The therapist and the client
collaborate to find ways for the client to use therapy in their everyday life in the form of
homework.
A common misconception is that CBT is superficial, or just about the here and now. For
some problems, such as arachnophobia (fear of spiders), you may not need to explore
much background. But for other problems, like trauma and chronic trauma, exploring the
client’s background is central.
Psychoeducation is also a vital part of CBT. This means educating the client about the
different ways to understand their problems and how to treat them. For example, a client with panic attacks is educated about how stress manifests in the body and the role
catastrophic thoughts play in the development of an attack, as well as how to break the
harmful cycle. There are no manuals for using CBT to treat clients coming out of cults,
but in the same spirit as with other problems, it’s important for the cult client to
understand what has happened to them psychologically, as an individual and as a
member of a cultic group. Other benefits of psychoeducation are that it reduces magical
thinking and increases the possibility of approaching issues more objectively, as the
therapist can refer to research.

The Cult Leader

The cult leader as a traumatizing narcissist

In his 2014 article on the relational system of the traumatizing narcissist, Daniel Shaw
describes two differing types of pathological narcissists who had, up to that point, been
recognized by psychoanalytic writers. This person may be a parent, a sibling, a teacher, a
cult leader, and so on. Of the two types, one is the deflated narcissist, who is thin
skinned and shame-prone with fragile self-esteem, easily wounded or insulted. The other
is the overinflated, grandiose, thick-skinned narcissist, who is manipulative, aggressive,
exploiting, and controlling. These narcissists can be charismatic, seductive, and intensely
attentive. Shaw describes the psychoanalytic view that the two types are
complementary.
Behind the deflated narcissist’s self-doubt and over-idealization is
hidden grandiosity—he enjoys grandiosity by proxy, or longs to do so;
and behind the overinflated narcissist’s entitled grandiosity is deep
insecurity and the urgent need to ward off destabilization, and often
psychosis, by manipulating and controlling others who will idealize him
(Shaw, 2014).
To these classic categories, Shaw adds the concept of the traumatizing narcissist that
goes beyond defining a character or neurological pathology. He explains that the
pathology is about subjugation of others: followers, spouses, siblings, children:
By subjugating the other, the narcissist inflates and verifies his
delusional grandiosity and omnipotence. To elevate oneself by
subjugating another is the essence of what I mean by traumatizing
narcissism. The chief means of subjugation is objectification—using the
other as one’s object to possess, suppressing the subjectivity of the
other, exploiting the other (Shaw, 2014).

The core here is that the narcissists care primarily about their own needs and feelings. If
someone else is expressing their needs, the narcissist will make the other person look
selfish and hurtful. Shaw explains that the narcissistic parent is being both envious of
and resentful toward the child’s right to be dependent and demanding. The parent will
make the child feel shame for their own needs and wishes and will learn to see themself
as the parent does, as greedy, selfish, or weak (Shaw, 2014).


The cult leader as a person with disorganized attachment

In her 2021 book, Terror, Love and Brainwashing: Attachment in Cults and Totalitarian
Systems, Alexandra Stein describes the cult leader in a similar way but uses attachment
theory to understand cult leaders and how they form groups. Attachment is an
evolutionary mechanism developed for survival. Being attached to a caregiver is a means
of protection and just as vital as seeking after food. The caregiver becomes a safe haven
where the child finds protection and can be emotionally comforted. If the parent is good
enough, the child will be securely attached and thereby develop a sense of being loved
and valuable and will be trusting of others. If the parent is not good enough, the child
will develop an insecure attachment and struggle to feel valuable and trusting of others.
The worst scenario is if the caregiver is the one who is making the child feel scared or
threatened. You can’t safely escape both from and to the same person. It becomes an impossible situation where the child will be confused and may dissociate. If this becomes
a pattern in the relationship, that child will develop a disorganized attachment.
Stein connects attachment theory with trauma research, explaining that disorganized
attachment is a chronic trauma which will prevent the brain from adequately regulating
emotions, responding to threats, and integrating thoughts and emotions. Since the
dissociation is not global, a person with disorganized attachment can be highly
functioning in other areas of their lives. According to Stein, this theory explains both the
cult leader, who has experienced disorganized attachment in their own life, and the cult
leader’s impact on followers. Regardless of what attachment pattern you grow up with,
when you are recruited into a cultic group as an adult your attachment to the group will
become disorganized (Stein, 2021).
Stein shows how the cult leader starts a cult by recruiting one person (person zero) by
alternating love and threats, manipulating the member, and isolating them from their
safe havens until the member’s attachment is disorganized. The leader’s totalitarian
ideology is not the end but a means to prevent the followers from reflecting adequately
on their situation, because if they did, they might consider leaving the group. Stein
further explains that there are two types of disorganized attachment: the dominant,
aggressive type (the leader), and the passive, obedient type (the follower). What drives
cult leaders is to make sure followers are attached to the leader (in a disorganized way),
in order that the leader may avoid abandonment. The cult leaders do this in the best way
they know, from their own experiences.

The cult leader assigning roles as a mean of control

These two models of understanding a cult leader have in common the chronic trauma
experienced by the cult leader. Their own developmental trauma has resulted in well
hidden low self-esteem and fear of being abandoned. Their behaviors look very much the
same with lack of empathy, guilt, or regret; having a shallow charm; being egocentric,
manipulative, lying, and grandiose. With this background, it’s easier to understand why
they put so much effort into controlling their followers. There are many ways to assert
control in a manipulative way. Assigning different roles is only one aspect of the control
system.

The Golden Child and the Evil/Scapegoated Child

Research on narcissistic parents indicates that there are generally two types: the
disinterested and the controlling. The disinterested parent loses interest in the child if the
child does not provide the parent with continuous confirmation and flattery. On the other
hand, if the child is successful, they will become a trophy. The controlling parent is
obsessed with the child, monitors them, and finds it very difficult to respect their
boundaries and autonomy. Both these types have low tolerance for failure. The child the
parent prefers is regarded as a “golden child,” is seen as having all the virtues of the
parent and is expected to give the parent prestige (Perrotta, 2020).
Other researchers describe how narcissistic families with several children will designate
one of them a golden child who is to be perfect in everything. The child “becomes a
property and an extension of his parent who projects on him all the grandeur and
perfection, as his images” (Costin, 2020).
The opposite role is the scapegoat. That child is denigrated and humiliated, “permanently
triangulated, i.e. compared, placed in the shadow of the golden child to accentuate his
self-doubt and discourage him from any attempt to threaten this pathological model”
(Costin, 2020).
If the golden child rebels against the expectations of the parent, their status can change
to scapegoat. In the most dysfunctional families “the parent can incite the golden child to
mistreat the scapegoat child” (Perrotta, 2020).
In a cultic context these roles can be assigned to children and/or adults. The “golden
child” becomes a role model for the other followers, and the “evil child” or scapegoat is a person you can blame for everything that goes wrong. The leader can focus on this
scapegoat to avoid recognizing their own shortcomings. These roles can quickly change
and can shift between family or cult members at the whim of leadership.
In CBT we often talk about behaviors in terms of what function they fulfill for the person
and how they affect other people and relationships. This approach can be used to explore
the functions of different roles in a cult and help the client make these links and
connections. When I do this with my clients, I give examples of the different functions
and outcomes when the leader is assigning the roles of the golden child and the evil child
in a cultic group.

The golden child

Assigning someone the role of the golden child has several benefits for the leader. This
person presents proof to the other members that it’s possible to come close to the goal
of being a successful member and that the leadership and the ideology are working.
On the other hand, there are also considerable risks with having an adult golden child.
The golden child can get too popular and, in the end, replace the leader. The cult leader
may try to minimize the risk of replacement and abandonment by damaging the potential
attachment between the golden child and other members. This is a common technique of
cult leaders, separating parents from children or spouse from spouse so the relationship
with another person does not jeopardize the relationship with the cult leader.
I experienced this firsthand in my own cult experience, which was in the Unification
Church. A local leader in New York tried to make us more loyal to him than to the leader
Moon himself. When this was revealed, the local leader was kicked out. We were told he
had been attacked by Satan and therefore we should not have any contact with him. We
were sent to a camp in upstate New York to learn to see him as the devil and reinforce
our attachment to Moon. Once the golden child became a risk to the leader, he was
turned into an evil child.

Another way of minimizing the risk a golden child presents to the leader is to give the
golden child a role which other followers not only are impressed by, but also fear. For
example, the golden child may be held up as an example of good behavior and assigned
the role of teaching others how to be good members. The golden child is often also
turned into an informer, reporting to the leader on other members’ behaviors. In the
manipulative language of the Moonies, the leader Sun Myung Moon and his wife were
called “the True Parents,” and the followers then automatically became their “children”.
The informer system was presented as helping “brothers and sisters” to follow the right
path, and if they did not, telling “mom or dad” about it by giving the information upwards
to the closest leader.
Since the goals always are unrealistic, the golden child will always ultimately fail, or at
least not reach the leader’s goals. This may lead the leader to put pressure on the golden
child to do whatever it takes to achieve results. By now the golden child is often
desperate and may use the same behaviors as the leader to punish harshly those who
fail or do not obey. In many cases the punishment is a direct instruction. The golden
child becomes a punisher, an offender. A golden child knows that if they decline to be an
informer or a punisher, the leader will be furious and severely punish what is seen as
betrayal. Falling from grace is worse than never having grace. The stakes are higher. The
golden child is in a trap. There is no way out. They will be severely punished, possibly
become the evil child, or be ostracized or kicked out of the group with nowhere to go
since they have probably by now burned all their bridges to the world outside.

The evil child

It is also beneficial for the leader to make followers obedient by setting an example of
what happens when they do not obey. This can be done by creating a scapegoat or an
“evil child”. The leadership chooses someone to blame for what are really their own
mistakes or shortcomings or as a distraction from uncomfortable situations. The leader
can take this one more step, by choosing as a scapegoat someone who is loyal and hardworking and does not see the attack coming. This instills fear in everyone–anyone
can at any moment with no obvious reason be degraded or even kicked out. In an evil
twist, the golden child can be pressured to punish whoever the leader doesn’t like, and
the rest will most likely follow, heaping criticism on the designated scapegoat.

How roles change behaviour and self-image

Being assigned a role may also change one’s self-image. In social psychology we learn
that we define ourselves by our behaviors. If you can change someone else’s behavior,
you can also change their self-image. Someone assigned the role of golden child or a role
model, being praised and rewarded, may come to view themselves as superior to other
members, as special and chosen (by the leader), the one with good results. Harsh
behavior towards others and reporting on their misdeeds are defined as being a good and
loyal member which strengthens one’s self-image. You learn to think and act like the
leader, regarding your own feelings, needs, and boundaries as expressions of
selfishness/ego/demons that you need to try to get rid of.
A person assigned the role of evil child or scapegoat may come to believe they are a bad
person. I have met people who have been punished psychologically, physically, and
socially (criticized or ostracized) by the whim of the leader, and they become desperate
to get accepted again. They behave as if they did something terrible to earn humiliation
and punishment, which in turn strengthens their self-image as an evil person.
To understand this dynamic, it is helpful to apply Robert Cialdini’s principles of influence
(Cialdini, 2021). One of these is the principle of reciprocation. First you give a person
something, like a favor, or an unsolicited gift—as when a charity sends a free tote bag or
calendar. Later you ask for something in return. The charity wants a donation. It will be
difficult to turn that request down, since we usually are raised with the understanding
that we need to repay what another person has provided. If not, we will feel guilt. This
becomes manipulative when something is presented as a favor or a gift, but in fact it is a
way to make you feel obligated to say yes to the request as a way of repaying the
original gift.

Another principle of influence is that we first induce someone to make a small
commitment; then we make a request for a larger commitment. Because humans desire
to seem consequent to ourselves and to others, the victim may be more willing to agree
to the larger request to be consistent with their prior commitment. The trick is to make
the victim change their behaviors in many small steps because small steps are easier to
accept. Once you take the first step, a sense of commitment is created which drives us to
accept the next request. And the next one. Every step strengthens our commitment, and
along with the new behaviors we change our self-image.
An example of this is, when I met the Moonies, my first step was to go to an open house,
and later sign up for a seven-day camp. When I also signed up for the 21-day camp, my
handsome new teacher saw me writing a letter to a friend, looked at me very seriously,
and said: “Now that you committed to take this seriously, taking time and energy to
write letters is not serious.”
In a cultic framework, first you are given attention, love, and a sense of community and
acceptance. Later, as you transition from recruit to follower, the leader will ask more and
more of you. As you achieve higher standing, you may be used as an example for
others—that is, you become a golden child, and may be given the job of punishing
followers. You will rationalize your cruel actions as beneficial because they support the
leader and reinforce their ideology. Your loyalty to the leader is strengthened, and your
bond with others is weakened. All this will impact your self-image. You are ‘helping’
others to do the ‘right’ thing, go to heaven, and avoid hell or being a self-centered
person.

Understanding These Roles Can Facilitate Empathy, Forgiveness,
and Restored Relationships

In the process of leaving a cultic group and trying to recover, those designated as the
good and the evil child may face various difficulties. The roles affect their relationships
with other former members, and their relationships with people outside of the group. For
example, a person who was always the scapegoat can have the impression that the
golden child did not suffer, and may also regard the golden child as evil, thinking that
they themselves would never treat someone else in such a cruel way. On the other hand,
the person who was the golden child and was forced to punish others can drown in guilt
without seeing that they were also a victim.
My experience as a therapist is that discussing these roles and understanding their
dynamics can be helpful in recovery from a cultic group experience. When former
members can see that they were all pawns in a cruel game, they may develop
understanding and empathy with each other’s difficulties. The situation is not black and
white. Understanding these different roles, those of the cult leader, golden child, and
scapegoat, can be a basis for working with shame, guilt, and fear; can facilitate
forgiveness; and, in the end, may even facilitate restoration of relationships. Of course,
in extreme cases, a relationship may be neither appropriate nor possible. Clients need to
build or reclaim their identity and learn to respect their own feelings and boundaries.
Forgiveness might not be possible, but at least their story can be more comprehensible.

About the Author: Helena Löfgren is a licensed psychotherapist (CBT) and has a
Bachelor of Psychology. She is also a former member of the Unification Church in New
York. lofgrensanalys.se

A Message for Estranged Parents

From a message board forum for estranged and alienated parents and grandparents-

For those adult children who have had loving, caring parents and the relationship was previously good, but you’ve taken the advice from people you hardly know and gone no contact, you really need to take a good look at yourselves and the impact you are having on your parents. Estrangement is a killer make no mistake. Parents have ended their lives or become ill and died.

■If you can sit and eat your Christmas dinner knowing your parents are facing the bleakest of days, the problem isn’t them.

■If you can ignore birthdays, Mothers and Father’s Day knowing the pain it will cause, the problem is not them.

■If you can tell your children that your parents are bad people or you simply deny they exist, or if you think you can talk your way through explaining the benefits of cutting your child off from knowing it’s own gene pool and tribal roots, the problem is not your parents.

■If you can snub, ignore, ostracise, dish out the silent treatment on an ongoing basis, sulk and then act as though you are the victim, it’s you that’s the narcissist, not your parents.

■If your parents loved you and did their best yet you can deal with knowing all these things above and yet still continue to hurt your them in this way, the problem isn’t them.

Coping with Bereavement at Christmas

Christmas can be an incredibly difficult period for those who have been bereaved. Adverts, television programmes, and even Christmas music which emphasise love and togetherness around the Christmas tree can really put the boot in if you’re aching with the grief of bereavement.

Christmas is a time of heightened feeling, laden with memories for many of us. Reactions to bereavement differ from person to person. For some grieving people, Christmas can be a very joyful time, in which happy times with lost loved ones can be fondly remembered. But this isn’t always the case. If you’re worried that you’re going to be struggling with grief this Christmas – no matter how long ago your bereavement was – here is some advice on coping with bereavement at Christmas:

SHOULD YOU CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS AFTER A BEREAVEMENT?

The way people treat Christmas following a bereavement differs a lot. Some people worry that it is disrespectful to celebrate a festival like Christmas while mourning, while others think that following the traditions in which the deceased once participated is a good way to honour their memory. There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ way to celebrate Christmas (or not!) after a bereavement. You must do what feels right for yourself and your family. However, it is important not to torture or ‘punish’ yourself by deliberately shunning much-loved festivities (or vice versa).

If you are spending Christmas with other bereaved family members, do be sensitive to the fact that their grief and your grief may be occurring in very different ways. It’s not uncommon for bereaved families to come into conflict over the Christmas period, as family members may differ in their idea of how to respect the deceased during this time. Some may take objection to celebrating Christmas at all, while others may try hard to emphasise the positives of the season. Often, some family members wish to stick rigidly to established festive rituals and routines which others feel will bring up painful memories. If your mode of dealing with Christmas during this time differs from that of your loved ones, do be aware that nobody is trying to disrespect the deceased or to minimise their loss – they’re simply coping with that loss in a different way. Everyone’s grief is valid. If you’re struggling to communicate with your grieving loved ones during this time, a counsellor may be able to help.

HOW CAN YOU MANAGE YOUR GRIEF AT CHRISTMAS?

Don’t wrestle with Christmas pressures. There’s an intense amount of pressure around Christmas – to do certain things, buy certain things, be with certain people. This pressure can be difficult even for those who are not struggling with grief. Don’t cave to any pressures you do not feel will be good for you. If you want to stay home on your own and have a quiet day, you do that. If you’d rather throw a big party for the whole family, you do that, too. But don’t feel that you HAVE to do anything.

 Practise self-care. Be kind to yourself. This is not the same as indulging your every whim (although a bit of self-indulgence can help!). It means following a lifestyle which works well for your physical and mental health. Try to keep your sleep patterns regular, eat healthily, and take some exercise every now and again. Christmas can disrupt normal lifestyles and routines significantly, so make a point of taking extra care of yourself during this period.

 Remember that you are not alone. A great many people have to struggle with the memories of their loved ones’ passing around this time. Even those who have not lost loved ones close to Christmas will undoubtedly be remembering those who used to join them for Christmas dinner but have since passed on. While it may seem as though everyone else is enjoying a happy time surrounded by perfect, loving families, the truth is that almost everyone will be sparing a thought for absent loved ones during this time.

LONELINESS AT CHRISTMAS AFTER A BEREAVEMENT

If bereavement has left you alone at Christmas, we understand that this can be very hard. Loneliness is a difficult and dangerous thing at the best of times, but it feels particularly brutal at Christmas.

If you are going to be alone for Christmas, and would rather not be, there are options open to you. People or organisations in your local community may be opening their doors for Christmas meals and events. If you are not sure where to look for these, contact Community Christmas, who may be able to help. If you have loved ones but cannot reach them physically for Christmas, a phone call or even a simple card can make the world of difference. Do not be afraid to reach out and ask for company and support. This is the season of goodwill, after all, and people can be very generous with their time and their homes.

Of course, the option of counselling around Christmas is always available to you, should you feel the need.

HOW CAN COUNSELLING HELP WITH GRIEF AND LOSS AT CHRISTMAS?

If you’re worried about grief and loss at Christmas, it can be helpful to speak with an accredited counsellor. Your counsellor will help you to work through your memories, your feelings, and your worries in a safe and supportive way. They may also provide you with strategies which will make the festive period an easier and perhaps even a happier time for you moving forward. Many people find that, as the years pass, Christmas transitions from a time marred by the pain of bereavement to a time of fond reflection, during which happy memories of lost loved ones can be shared and treasured. This transition can be a long process, but counselling from an accredited therapist with whom you have a good rapport can really help you to move this process along.

National Counselling Society

Emotional Blackmail of Parents

by Carl E Pickhardt

By expressing strong emotion, adolescents can manipulate their parents.

Children do it all the time. Powerless when refused what they want by a parent, they may signify displeasure by communicating disappointment, hurt, or outrage. What happens next is formatively important, and in most parent/child relationships this response occurs some of the time.

Faced with the child’s sulking, crying, or tantrum, the parent feels regret or remorse for saying “no,” or simply seeks relief from the emotional intensity and so relents. “All right, just this once, you can have it (or do it), since it matters so much to you. Just stop making such a fuss!”

Now the child brightens up, and learns how there is persuasive power in the strong expression of emotion, particularly unhappiness. It can be used to get his way.

In fact, one psychologist, John Narciso (see his book “Declare Yourself,” 1975) called this category of behaviors “get my way techniques.” Another psychologist, Susan Forward, wrote a book about this emotional manipulation (“Emotional Blackmail,” 1997.) In one of my early books, “Keys to Single Parenting” (1996) I called it “emotional extortion.” In counselling, I still call it by that name.

During adolescence, when getting freedom from parents becomes increasingly important, manipulation of parental authority through lying, pretence, and pressuring becomes more common. Emotional extortion can combine all three.

Thus when pleading and argument fail to win a parent over or back a parent down, the tactics of emotional extortion can come into play. The particular emotions exploited vary according to the emotional susceptibility of the parents, but the objective is always the same—to get parents to give in or change their mind.

Remember, from closely observing these adults who have so much power over their lives, children know their parents far better than parents know their children. Children, and particularly adolescents, are expert in the “pushing the buttons” of emotional susceptibility in parents, often using this knowledge in conflict to win their ways. Many children growing up with a parent who is not safe to be around learn this manipulative behavior to survive and must then unlearn it later on, or else they will afflict a significant adult relationship with emotional extortion to their cost. Consider a few of the forms emotional extortion can take.

If a parent is sensitive to approval, then the teenager will express love through appreciation, affection, or pleasing to soften the mother or father up. This emotional extortion works when the parent feels, “How can I refuse when my teenager, who is usually so hard to get along with, is now acting so nice?”

If a parent is sensitive to rejection, the teenager, loudly or quietly, will express anger through acting offended, injured, or wronged to soften the mother or father up. This emotional extortion works when the parent feels, “I can’t stand it when my teenager acts like she doesn’t like me.”

If a parent is sensitive to inadequacy, the teenager will express criticism through attacking the parent’s character, caring, or competence to soften the mother or father up. This emotional extortion works when the parent feels, “I can’t stand being judged a failure in my teenager’s eyes.”

If a parent is sensitive to guilt, the teenager will express suffering through acting unhappy, hurt, or sad to soften the mother or father up. This emotional extortion works when the parent feels, “I can’t stand feeling responsible for my teenager’s unhappiness.”

If a parent is sensitive to pity, the teenager will express helplessness through acting hapless or resigned to soften the mother or father up. This emotional extortion works when the parent feels, “I can’t stand feeling sorry for my teenager when she just gives up and acts victimized by whatever decision I’ve made.”

If a parent is sensitive to abandonment, the teenager will express apathy through acting like the relationship doesn’t matter anymore and doesn’t care in order to soften the mother or father up. This emotional extortion works when the parent feels, “I can’t stand the loneliness when my child acts like there’s no caring for our relationship.”

If a parent is sensitive to intimidation, the teenager may express explosiveness, loudly talking or acting like he’s going to lose physical control and threaten harm to soften the mother or father up. This emotional extortion works when the parent feels, “I can’t stand being frightened of getting hurt.”

To discourage these manipulations, parents must refuse to play along with the extortion. After all, your adolescent cannot emotionally manipulate you without your permission. You must resist your own susceptibilities to rejection, guilt, intimidation and the like and refuse to let these emotional vulnerabilities influence your decisions.

Give in to these tactics, and you will feel badly about yourself, your teenager, and your relationship, and more important may reluctantly allow what you know is unwise that could cause your adolescent to come to harm. “I know I shouldn’t have let her go. I didn’t want to. But she was so unhappy with me for refusing, I just couldn’t say ‘no.’ And now look at what has happened!”

Parents must not only hold firm in the face of this emotional manipulation, they must hold the teenager to declarative account. Thus when the teenager uses intense anger or suffering to overcome a parental refusal, the parent needs to be able to say and mean: “Acting emotionally upset is not going to change my mind. However, if you want to tell me specifically about why you are feeling so upset, I certainly want to listen to what you have to say.”

Declaration creates understanding, but emotional manipulation creates distrust. At worst, when feelings are expressed for extortionate effect, then the authentic value of those feelings can become corrupted.

Declare what you want or do not want to have happen in specific terms, then discuss and negotiate the disagreement. Do not use the strong expression of emotion to get your way, or you will encourage that extortion from your teenager by your own bad example.

This article does not only apply to children and teenagers, adult children can also behave this way.

Psychology Today

Toxic Adult Children

15 signs your daughter doesn’t respect you

Co-authored by Julia Lyubchenko, MS, MA and Bailey Cho

Toxic Daughter Traits |Dealing with Toxic Behavior |Should I walk away from a toxic child?

Does your adult daughter still throw temper tantrums, make snarky remarks, or give you the silent treatment? If so, you might have an unhealthy parent-child relationship. While it may be the same behavior exhibited during childhood, disrespect from an adult child can feel more hurtful than before—but, it doesn’t mean you have to sit back and take it. In this article, we’re going over all the signs that you have a toxic daughter, plus how to handle her behavior and move forward in the situation.

Things You Should Know

  • A toxic daughter may blame you for her problems and refuse to take accountability for her actions. To get what she wants, she might make you feel guilty or invalidate your feelings.
  • To deal with toxic behavior, communicate your boundaries clearly. For example, if your daughter yells at you, you can say, “If you raise your voice, I am going to leave the room.”
  • If you feel guilty or upset around your daughter, you may have a toxic relationship. If your daughter continues to ignore your boundaries, you may decide to take a step back.

Toxic Daughter Traits

She always criticizes you.

A toxic daughter may say mean things to her parents to make them feel ashamed or humiliated. If your daughter constantly makes unnecessary comments about your age, looks, cooking, behavior, or parenting style, it could be her way of intentionally hurting you.

She doesn’t respect your boundaries

A toxic daughter may not believe in personal space or boundaries, fueling her toxic behavior. Whether she’s always late to meet you or calls you at any given hour (when you’ve asked her not to), this behavior isn’t acceptable for a grown adult—if she continues to act this way, it could harm her relationships with others because she doesn’t care about their time, space, or energy.

She yells at you.

If your daughter raises her voice during an argument, it may be a sign that she’s not emotionally mature. Since she can’t express her emotions in a calm, rational way, the only way to get her point across is to lash out at you (and by overpowering your voice, you may not be able to get a single word in)

She plays the victim.

If your daughter blames you for every problem in her life, she hasn’t learned how to take accountability for her actions. She might say things like, “It’s not my fault,” or “You’re the reason I turned out this way” (even when you don’t have influence over certain situations). By playing the blame game, she’s avoiding her responsibilities as an adult and hindering her personal growth.

She lacks empathy.

If your daughter was neglected or traumatized during childhood, she may be unable to feel or demonstrate empathy as an adult.[5] While this doesn’t justify her behaviour, it could explain why she makes insensitive or cruel comments. Since she can’t put herself in another person’s shoes, she doesn’t know how to work through conflict in a healthy manner (resulting in aggressive or toxic behaviour)

She’s passive-aggressive.

If your daughter gives you the silent treatment or shuts down conversations with a brisk “Whatever,” or “Fine,” she might have unresolved issues with you. Although this doesn’t give her the right to rudely dismiss you, this could be her way of masking her anger or resentment (and the moment you counter her behaviour, she can use it to justify her passive-aggressive actions)

She’s manipulative.

If your daughter doesn’t get what she wants through aggressive tactics, she may begin to act differently in order to take advantage of you. Whether she acts nicer to you than usual or flat-out ignores you, interpret this as a sign of toxic behavior—she’s playing up her emotions to get her way or convince you to do something for her.

She lies to get her way.

If she can’t get what she wants through aggressive or manipulative tactics, a toxic daughter may resort to lying. No matter how big or small the lie, lying is extremely damaging behavior that breaks the foundation for a healthy relationship (and since it’s coming from your child, it feels like an even greater betrayal of trust)

She gaslights you.

A toxic daughter may invalidate her parents’ experiences to make herself feel better—but it’s definitely not okay. Since gaslighting isn’t as obvious as verbally attacking someone, it can be harder to identify, but if your daughter dismisses or minimizes your feelings (to make you feel like you’re always wrong), take it as a sign that you have an unhealthy relationship.

She doesn’t apologize.

A toxic daughter might believe she knows everything, which explains why she rarely or never apologizes. In her mind, she’s always right, and since she’s refusing to acknowledge anyone else’s opinion, it may feel like you’re talking to a brick wall most of the time.

She makes you feel guilty.

A toxic daughter may bring up her parents’ mistakes to justify her behavior. If your daughter constantly reminds you of a past slip-up, it usually means she’s not over the situation. Because there’s not a definitive way to prove your intentions were caring, she likely won’t forgive you until she addresses the pain and trauma within herself.

She verbally attacks you.

Does your daughter frequently insult, criticize, or bully you? If so, it may be a sign that she has no emotional filter. A toxic daughter isn’t afraid to verbally attack her parents because she doesn’t know how to express her emotions properly (or she simply doesn’t care to). Since there’s only so much verbal abuse you can take, you may end up feeling bad about yourself when she’s not around.

She uses others to get what she wants.

If you have grandchildren, your toxic daughter may refuse to let you see them unless you give her what she wants. This is a clear sign of bullying (and bribery), and it can disrupt your entire family dynamic. By using her children as pawns, she’s playing a game to punish and hurt you.

She’s insulting.

A toxic daughter may simply not care about her parents’ well-being. And if she doesn’t respect their opinions or boundaries, it means she’s not afraid to say things that come off as rude or offensive. If your daughter makes insulting comments about you or your partner, interpret it as a sign that you have an unhealthy relationship.

She’s entitled.

Sometimes, a toxic daughter believes she “deserves” everything she desires (and uses this to justify her behavior). If your daughter praises herself when she does the bare minimum or thinks the world revolves around her, it might explain why she’s so hurtful to you—she doesn’t care about anything other than getting what she wants.

She abandons you after marriage.

While it’s understandable for your daughter to prioritize her partner, it’s not normal to be cut off completely after marriage. If your daughter rarely reaches out unless she wants something, it’s definitely a sign that your relationship is toxic (and has become estranged).

Set healthy boundaries.

To protect your well-being, identify toxic behavior you will not accept and communicate your limits in a clear and direct manner. Try to be as concise and specific as possible so your boundary is easy to remember. For example, if your daughter constantly shouts at you, you could say, “I’m not going to listen to you if you don’t speak in a normal tone. If you raise your voice, I’m going to leave the room.

  • Although it can be hard to set healthy boundaries with your child, no one deserves to be disrespected or attacked. You don’t need a reason to be treated with respect, so be extra compassionate to yourself during this process.
  • If you’re worried about confrontation, practice the scenario with a trusted friend so you can learn to stay calm in heated situations.[20]
  • If your daughter disregards your boundaries (and you don’t wish to speak to her in person), it’s perfectly okay to send her an email or text to restate them. You could say, “Since you don’t respect me and continue to insult me, I will no longer accept your calls.

Limit your contact if things don’t get better.

Although you shouldn’t have to change your schedule to avoid your daughter, you might find it’s the most effective way to maintain a peaceful life. Regardless of your relationship, you don’t owe anyone your time and energy, so feel free to leave the room if you don’t want to be near your daughter. Or, give yourself a break and go no-contact for a few months until you’re in a better place.

  • If you can’t limit physical contact with your daughter, try to limit the emotional energy you spend on her. To protect yourself from negative energy, make a conscious effort to focus on the positive aspects of your life and remind yourself that it’s not your responsibility to “fix” someone.
  • While it can be hard to avoid your daughter at family gatherings, try to surround yourself with other people so there’s no opportunity for her to corner you. Avoid sharing the details of your relationship to family members you’re not close to—remember that any information can be used against you.

Get support from loved ones.

If you’re struggling to deal with your daughter’s toxic behavior, talk to a trusted family member or friend to help you process your emotions. Remember that you don’t have to go through this experience alone—a loved one can help you navigate your relationship with your daughter and provide emotional support.

  • If you don’t have a strong support network, seek professional help. A therapist is an unbiased third party who can help you figure out the next steps in the healing process.
  • If your relationship is seriously affecting your mental health, contact the National Hotline for Domestic Abuse.

If your daughter ignores your boundaries, it may be time to walk away.

At the end of the day, if your daughter continues to attack or belittle you (and you’ve clearly stated your boundaries), you might have to cut ties with her to minimize your pain and suffering. While you can’t control your daughter’s behaviour, you can control if she has access to hurt you, and by distancing yourself, you can begin the road to healing.

  • Every relationship is different, so there’s no specific timeline to leave a toxic situation. The decision to walk away is extremely brave and difficult, so reflect on how you feel around your daughter and ask yourself what’s holding you back.
  • When leaving an emotionally abusive relationship, be sure to set up an exit strategy with your friends and family. Accept that you may feel guilty at first, but remain firm in your decision.
  • Remember that cutting contact with your daughter doesn’t have to be forever. When she’s ready to address and change her behavior, she can reach out to you to repair your relationship.

Wiki How

Parental Alienation from Adult Children

When adult children still choose the abuser over the loving alienated parent.

There’s nothing quite as powerful as your bond with your parent, even if their ‘parenting’ is rife with lies, greed, neglect and abuse.

Perhaps it was hubris, perhaps it was naivete, but when a loving parent was finally able to tell their (now) adult children the truth after years of Parental Alienation and all their complaints, they expected them to react much differently than they did.

In their position, I would’ve been hungry for the truth. Horrified at the blatant lies of the abusive parent and relieved to embrace the proof the loving parent provided. It would’ve formed a cohesive Big Picture for me.

That’s not how their step-children behaved at all.

They listened politely and said ‘uh-huh’ in a convincing manner. They gathered as much data about the loving parent’s personal lives and finances as they could eke out. They won their trust by telling horrific stories of the abusive parent’s neglect and abuse. Stories that left the loving parent weeping too hard to even speak.

As far as they could tell, at long last they were all on the same page. Truth and love had triumphed over lies and abuse. There was justice in the world after all. the loving parent was vindicated and the adult children seemed happy to have a loving relationship with their parent again. The loving parent enjoyed hearing about their lives and sharing wisdom.

Maybe that was their mistake. As we all do, their children recreated the horror of their childhoods in their choice of partners and lifestyle. the loving parent’s advice for their safety and happiness seemed to fall on deaf ears. Again they said ‘uh-huh’ and did exactly the opposite.

Apparently, it irritated them more than they intimated as, en masse they returned to their lying, abusive parent and betrayed all the loving parent’s confidences. I guess their loyalty was always with the one who exploited them and caused them so much pain. Once again, the loving parent is being called a liar. To say that they feel betrayed and hoodwinked is the understatement of the millennia. Again, they wept.

There was no inkling that they were anything other than delighted, even desperate, to forge a loving adult friendship with their parent after years of Parental Alienation.

Then it was all over. There was no hint, no warning. One day the loving parent was dispensing parental advice and the next, they wanted nothing to do with them. It was as though they had somehow gotten stuck in an infinite time loop, reliving the horror of Parental Alienation again.

Personally, I believe the abusive parent bribed them. They love money more than life itself.

This time the Parental Alienation is different as the children have chosen it of their own free wills as adults. Although saddened, the loving parent’s heart is surprisingly light and, more importantly, their consciences are clear.

They did the right thing and, as the saying goes, ‘water will find its own level’. I guess the adult children enjoy embracing lies. If that’s their level…!

It may sound harsh but the loving parent has decided they will not be giving their children another opportunity to be a part of their life. ‘Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me’. They have not changed. Their abusive parent raised them to spy on the loving one, behaving lovingly to their face but despicably behind their back. Adulthood changed nothing. All grown children have chosen to remain the same in adulthood as they were as teenagers.

The loving parent did their best. They were honest, loving and supportive. If their children don’t want a parent like that at their weddings and cuddling their grandchildren, then it’s their funeral. the loving parent will no longer try to connect with them nor accept their advances. It’s over.

If you are alienated from your children, I hope you too will be reconciled one day. I hope it goes better for you than it went for this parent. But forewarned is forearmed: your Happily Ever After may turn to ashes to.

It’s not your fault.

Psych Central

Children Who Side with the Abuser

Please note that this can and often continues when the children become adults.

In Part 1 of this post, I began exploring some of the reasons why kids may side with a man who abuses their mother, especially if he’s their father. We looked in particular at kids’ desperate desire to feel safe – and it feels safer to be on the abuser’s team — and their desire to escape the pain of injustice, which they can do by deciding that Mom deserved what she got.

There are a few additional causes that are as important as the ones I examined in Part 1.

Manipulation By the Abuser

Tragically, most abusers have strong manipulative skills, particularly if they are well-educated. (Yes, the more educated the abuser is, the more psychological damage he can do to kids. But the courts, especially the custody courts, love a well-educated batterer.)

The collection of manipulative tactics they use is endless, so I’ll give just a few examples:

Get Mom upset when she’s trying to spend good time with the kids.

The abuser especially loves to do this at key times, like birthdays or Christmases or the end of a hard day.

His goal is to create the impression in the children that “Mom is just always upset about something,” casting her as hysterical and moody. He sets it up to make it look as though she’s the one who ruined good times that he actually ruined. You can start to feel like you almost never get to have those close moments, because he always messes them up.

Undermine her appropriate efforts to set limits.

Dad comes out looking like he’s the fun parent while Mom is the strict one. This dynamic gets worse after the parents split up, because once he starts to have the children alone with him he can get away with doing whatever he wants – which often means letting them get away with doing whatever they want.

The custody court is two-faced on this issue. They’ll declare that parents need to provide a united front for the children; but then when Mom points out that Dad is destroying her maternal authority by letting the kids run wild at his house, the court turns condescending and says to her, “Part of divorce is accepting that each parent is going to have a different parenting style.”

As if the problem had anything to do with “different parenting styles”! The custody courts are the absolute kings and queens of euphemism. They really can’t get it that a domestic abuser loves to destroy the mother’s parental authority?

Of course, at the times when the abuser is mad at the kids he switches into his other personality, sometimes turning outright cruel in his punishments, such as not letting kids go to events that are hugely important to them. Mr. Nice Guy simply disappears when he doesn’t like the way someone is standing up to him, and the real abuser comes out. But the trauma that he causes at these times actually works to his advantage, tragically, because it makes his nice times seem even more dazzling to his (wounded) children.

 Lying

Good manipulators are good liars, and the domestic abuser lies and lies and lies. It’s overwhelming to kids – unbearable, really – to accept the fact that one of their parents is routinely and deliberately dishonest with them. It makes the world feel too scary. So children tend to convince themselves that what he’s saying must be true, even when deep down inside they know it isn’t. As the years go by, the children feel more and more confused about what’s real and what isn’t. And they start to pull away from Mom emotionally because of all the bad things they are being told about her, some of which make her sound absolutely awful.

The custody courts get sick of Mom always saying what a liar Dad is, but it’s the court’s own fault, because they refuse to look into what she’s telling them. If they would bother to check it out, they could easily see that she’s right. (I know how easy it is, because I used to do custody investigations for courts myself, and 90% of the time I could find out which parent was telling the truth by making even the most minimal effort to examine the evidence; but most court personnel, and court-appointed personnel, refuse to do so, and just choose to believe the abuser instead.)

Control the kids’ access to what they want.

For example, he takes various steps to keep Mom financially broke, then he gets a nice house and buys the children all kinds of things. He looks generous and Mom looks stingy.

Next, he reaches out to relatives of Mom’s and kisses up to them. The next thing you know, the kids are seeing their maternal cousins through him instead of through Mom. (Yes, I run into cases like this over and over again; more on this below.)

Then he tells teenagers he’ll buy them a car, but only if they come to live primarily with him.

And on and on it goes. He keeps setting it up so that he’s the pathway to the things that they desire in life.

I could write a whole book just about how abusive men manipulate kids. But the above examples capture some of the key dynamics that they set up.

Using Societal Messages to His Advantage

The predominant culture in the U.S. and across much of the globe, teaches that:

*  Mom’s have the primary responsibility for kids, including for keeping them safe.

*  Dads are to be admired if they make any significant contribution to child rearing (in other words, mothers and fathers are judged by entirely different standards, including by the courts).

*  Mothers are hysterical and worry too much about nothing.

*  Kids can’t turn out okay without a father, especially not boys. They need their father no matter how abusive he is or how absent he has been.

I get so sick of movie after movie (there are dozens of them) where the father is terrible to his children — through some combination of severe neglect and outright mistreatment — and then he finally comes through for his kids years later and we’re supposed to think that’s so wonderful and touching. But find me a single movie where a mother disappears for years (by choice) and then the audience is made to feel moved by the fact that she decided to show up again; I doubt you can do it.

Kids see these movies and they absorb the unhealthy message, along with all the other ones from the list above. And the abuser actively encourages these twisted, sexist values.

Children also can’t help absorbing the powerful reality that in modern society men have far more power than women do. So siding with the abuser doesn’t just put you on the winning side within your own family’s power dynamic, it puts you on the privileged side in the world. This reality is especially seductive for boys, who see that becoming like their abusive Dad opens for them a whole world that they can exploit.

Using Toxicity that Already Exists in the Family Tree

   Let’s face it, most family trees have their own issues with addiction, domestic violence, greed, child sexual abuse, narcissism, and other toxic patterns. I’ve rarely talked to anyone who didn’t have at least some of these serious problems present in a few key relatives, and for some people the family tree is riddled with them. (And this is true whether your family tree is rich or poor, formally educated or not, from thiculture or from that culture.)

The abuser often builds allies by connecting to toxic individuals among the relatives. He especially loves it when he can build relationships with toxic relatives of Mom’s, and thereby use her own people against her.

The custody courts just eat this one up. They’ll say to Mom, in a tone of contempt, “Your own parents, and one of your sisters as well, have told us that you’re the problem.” Have they bothered to look into what these people are like? Of course not. If they did, they’d find out exactly why these people would side with a man who was abusing their daughter or their sister. (This precise dynamic comes up in my book In Custody.)

These unholy alliances can influence children. The message from Dad, whether actually spoken aloud or not, is, “See how I get along with everyone, while Mom is refusing to speak to several of them?”

Fortunately these maneuvers are much harder to pull off when the Mom has a healthier family tree, and it’s even better if the abuser himself has pretty healthy relatives. But I talk to a lot of mothers who weren’t even aware of how much toxicity there was among their own relatives until they started to see people lining up behind the abuser. And in our times, when there’s been so much public indoctrination teaching people that kids will have ruined lives if they don’t have a father, the abuser can get a lot of mileage by going around crying to the relatives, “All I’m asking is to be able to play a role in my children’s lives.” And their hearts just bleed for him.

Men who care about their children don’t abuse the children’s mother. The damage that it does to children when you abuse their mother is so obvious that you simply can’t miss it — unless you really only care about yourself. The notion that a man can abuse the mother of his children but still be a good father is absurd; abusing a mother is the positive definition of terrible fathering.

But good luck getting toxic relatives – or the custody courts, which currently are as toxic as your worst relatives – to see that obvious fact.

Lundy Bancroft